MINUTES OF MEETING TALIS PARK
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Talis Park Community Development District was held on Tuesday, February 17, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. at 16665 Toscana Circle, Naples, Florida 34110.

Present and constituting a quorum were:

James Proctor	Chairman
Steven Wishner	Vice Chairman
Barry Sinoway	Assistant Secretary
Michael Smale	Assistant Secretary
Barbara Hurt-Simmons	Assistant Secretary

Also present were:

Paul Winkeljohn	District Manager
Patrick Burgess	Governmental Management Services
Alyssa Willson	District Counsel (by phone)
Josh Evans	District Engineer (by phone)
Dave Williams	Resident
Phil Dever	Resident

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Roll Call
Mr. Winkeljohn called the meeting to order and stated we have a quorum.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS	Audience	Comments	(Related
to	Right	to	Speak	Statute Changes)
Mr. Winkeljohn: Thank you for joining us today, at the beginning of the meeting, now is when we take public comment, if you have something you’re here to specifically talk about we can hear it now, or at your discretion.

Mr. Williams: Yes, I’m just hoping to get an idea of what’s going on or what might be going on with respect to the Corsica coach homes regarding the erosion control, so I can wait for that to transpire during the meeting.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, we have a few things that we’re going to talk about that related to that. Anything on your side?
Mr. Dever: No, I just wanted to say kudos to you guys for putting all the time to do this, and in preparation for the meeting I went into the website, looked at previous meeting minutes which are very well documented and everything. I saw all the discussions about expenses, so I just appreciate all your time, and there are questions I have about the finances, I’m a CPA, and Corsica as well but, if there is somebody that I could talk to about that, and I don’t want to take up your guys time.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, I can chat with you after the meeting.
Mr. Dever: Ok, because I’ve looked at the finance statements going back for 8 years, and some interesting things are popping out at me.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Ok, I’m happy to answer your questions. Mr. Wishner: Can you give us a sense of what issues.
Mr. Dever: It’s nothing questioning or alarming it’s just wondering why pine straw went from $18,000 to $50,000 a year, so just little things like that, and differences between budgeted and actual, and stuff like that.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Yes, I would like to hear some of those.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And just to answer the pine straw, we pay a percentage of what the golf course uses for our real estate versus theirs, so we don’t actually do the purchasing we just pay our portion, so I know it went up dramatically a couple of times, but it’s really market sensitive product, that I recall. Kevin Shields used to sit on this Board and explain it to us but, we don’t examine it like it’s a single purchase or ours, so I’d have to ask him.
Mr. Dever: Right, ok, so you guys don’t have any control over that.
Mr. Winkeljohn: We do, we just do it as an economy of scale, the golf course purchases it when they do their touch up or replacement, we do it as well.
Mr. Dever: I see.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: And over the years we inherited some licks in some areas. Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes.

Mr. Burgess: The entire berm is CDD and that is a part of it, so there’s a lot of CDD areas, and it’s done twice a year.
Mr. Wishner: And you probably recall from you reading the minutes but, post-hurricane there were several years of major expenditures that were discussed and then managed in the repair of the berm which was overseen and mandated by the state, if we didn’t do it, they were going to do it and bill us for it.
Mr. Dever: That’s the $500,000 for the berm, and that was just because of the hurricane.
Mr. Wishner: That’s right, well it’s age because the berm was 20 years old and the infrastructure had died and needed to be replaced, and we couldn’t redo the berm until we redid the infrastructure.
Mr. Dever: Ok.
Mr. Smale: And with regard to the berm we tried to replace plants that died or were dormant with things that required less maintenance than the previous design, so I don’t know of the fact of the costs being higher but, over time we felt that the less maintenance was much better for our budget.
Mr. Wishner: And we had walk a tightrope with that because the state mandates certain plantings, the berm had to be replenished to look the same under state requirements, we couldn’t make it different but, our team was very successful in finding less water thirsty plantings that would be acceptable to the state that wound up saving us about I think $60,000 a year in water.
Mr. Proctor: In addition to that, the $500,000 you mentioned approximately 80% of that was related to the actual irrigation equipment and it was only 20% for the plant material.
Mr. Dever: Really.
Mr. Winkeljohn: The berm is over a quarter of a mile in length, so it’s significant, and it’s 4 or 5 tiers.
Mr. Proctor: And just a follow up to Mike’s earlier point, I mean it was totally obsolete it was 20 years and it’s not efficient, it needed continuous repairs.
Mr. Winkeljohn: So, it’s one of the heavier maintenance envelopes you’ll see in District management and it’s not out of sight, out of mind, but it faces the highway not the residents so it was a complicated decision, you don’t put it back when you’re trying to sell brand new real estate but, the developer would, you’d put it back more environmentally

sensitive, more nutritionally, less demanding, more efficient and it may not be as aesthetic ultimately as it was before but, we did a lot, and it all coincided with, I don’t know if you saw the refinancing we did also, so we lowered the debt a little bit at the same time and generated replenishment of our reserves because you need a pretty good amount of reserves for this District due to that vastness of our responsibilities.
Mr. Dever:  So, I noticed the reserves went up but, when you say vast, it’s like
$100,000.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Our maintenance envelope. Mr. Dever: Just the reserves.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, it’s bigger than that. Mr. Wishner: It’s about a quarter of million. Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes.
Mr. Proctor:  One thing again with the bond refinancing was the fact there was a
$250,000 escrow when the original bond was funded and we were able to retrieve that money which help build the reserve.
Mr. Dever: Ok.
Mr. Proctor: So basically half of that theoretically that’s the $500,000 berm irrigation replacement project.
Mr. Dever: Ok, so we’re in control of the bond financing investment?
Mr. Winkeljohn: Some of it, there’s a trust indenture which gives us various restrictions but after, it was call period of 10 years after that 10 year call period we were able to get a lower rate, free up a lower reserve cash, because of a lower reserve you get back cash and bond funds often are overfunded slightly because of conservative pricing or assessment levels and there’s interest, there’s late payments, so after 10, 15 or 20 years they build up, there’s some cash sitting in there that you can’t use until the very end unless you refinance and then the refinancing frees them up.
Mr. Proctor: Plus it lowered the interest.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, slightly, and we have one more, we’ve refinance once, the 2016 bonds, that one will start to come into focus this year because it will be available.
Mr. Smale: So, the answer is yes, the Board controls the issuance.
Mr. Dever: So, at one point in the financial statement there was $8 million dollars in debt, but I see $1.5 here, so I’m not sure what the differential is.

Mr. Winkeljohn: I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear you.
Mr. Dever: At one point in the financial statements I saw it look like there was $8 million dollars in debt and then it’s $1.5 in our financial statement, so is there another entity or am I just misreading that?
Mr. Winkeljohn: I’m not sure what you’re seeing, we have two bonds Series so there would be two portions of debt, that you might have come across, there’s a 2016 and a 2024 bond, that both will retire in 2030 to 2034.
Mr. Smale: But off the top of your head, what’s the ballpark of our outstanding debt
total?
Mr. Winkeljohn: I don’t have a budget in front of me, I only have financials but, the
budget shows you the amortization but, it’s probably in the $7 to $8 million dollar range.
Mr. Dever: Ok.
Mr. Winkeljohn: There are two, and one of them is divided up.
Mr. Dever: But that’s prefunded, so you have assets equal to amount of the debt? Mr. Smale: No.
Mr. Wishner: No.
Mr. Smale: The debt gets paid every year on your property tax bill, you see the CDD, and when you look at our statements there’s a portion of our revenue dedicated to debt service.
Mr. Dever: So there are no assets.
Mr. Smale: No assets to pay for the debt, the cash flow from the annual assessments pays the debt service.
Mr. Dever: Ok.
Mr. Wishner: The assets are infrastructure. Mr. Dever: Ok, got it.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Over the last few years we can look at how much is left in those funds and you start making a decision to pay it off early with cash laying around so you can shorten it by a year often.
Mr. Dever: So, it appears to me that we’re responsible for the sidewalk across the
street.
Mr. Wishner: It was part of the original negotiation with the developer.

Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, the development agreement to build the county and the city can give you all kinds of offsite improvements, we did the roadway on Veterans, we did the lanes pulling in, all outside of the community but they were infrastructure the District had to improve and maintain.
Mr. Smale: It was mandated by an agreement between the original developer, WCI in 2002 or 2003, and the county, so, we inherited it, whatever they agreed to.
Mr. Winkeljohn: But what I’m hearing from your CPA sound is, you have all these responsibilities where is the asset to balance it. So, from a private business standpoint versus a public District because of its ability to assess and float another bond, or other bonds, don’t typically carry a lot of that reserve, they carry enough to deal with hurricanes, to deal with emergencies, to deal with typical replacement but, end of life replacement, we don’t cover that at all, in any of the Districts, even roadways, a lot of Districts have roads, and that’s first question every accountant will ask me, is why don’t you have a road reserve fund because it’s a million dollars to repave a lot of roads and you’re just not going to carry today’s people’s money for tomorrow’s investment, it’s just more pay as you go, and then you do it in bonds, at the end of 30 years when all your bonds are retired which you guys are within 10 years on some of them, you could simply float another bond.
Mr. Dever: I see, ok.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And that’s very typical for municipal government which we are a little version of.
Mr. Wishner: Any other questions?
Mr. Dever: No, I’m just curious about, I didn’t see any background on the solar aeration system, you had $50,000 last year and this year in the budget.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, there’s a quarterly maintenance, there’s 13 of them I believe, stations.
Mr. Dever: Ok.
Mr. Wishner: And sometimes they need to be replaced.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, they have a pretty heavy maintenance requirement again, being solar, the batteries have a life on them, the recharging batteries, the solar panels themselves all had a lot of damage from storms, so it’s a pretty pricey but, compared to 13 electric bills, it actually is pretty reasonable.
Mr. Dever: Ok, I just saw that appear in the budget beginning in 2024 or 2025.

Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, we’ve had them since 2013.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: But he’s just saying it’s a new line item, we probably called it something else.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, we might have.
Mr. Wishner: We might have broken it out because of expenses, we might have needed to replace certain things and it became a significant enough item that we broke it out.

down.

Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, that’s very likely.
Mr. Dever:	And Veterans landscaping went from $128,000 in 2021, or that went

Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, we renegotiated and we rebid the landscaping and we found a

better vendor price for that.
Mr. Dever: Ok, I mean I think that’s about it, I mean you answered my question about where the $500,000 came from and the reserves, that all makes sense, so I think I’m getting the picture.
Mr. Wishner: Ok.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Very good, any other public comments?

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of the Minutes of the
January 20, 2026 Meeting
Mr. Winkeljohn: We can move on to the minutes from your January 20th meeting which have been circulated, if there are any changes I can take them, or a motion is appreciated.

On MOTION by Mr. Smale seconded by Ms. Hurt-Simmons with all in favor, the Minutes of the January 20, 2026 Meeting were approved.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Discussion of Procedures for
the General Election
Mr. Winkeljohn: Item No. 4 is an item in your packet related to the general election which comes up in November, 2026, so this year. One of the elements that’s always peculiar in Florida is the registration period for those of you who are up for election. I think it’s seats

#2, #3 and #5, so it’s Barbara, Barry, and Mike, all three of you, and the qualification period should you chose to run again begins the second week in June, so June 8th through June 12th, the cutoff is at 12:00 noon on the 12th, which is a Friday, and it starts on a Monday at 12:00 noon. The last few years I think you’ve all learned that you can successfully do it through email and so you can just give them a call and see when they’re taking applications and if you’re out of town or traveling on that June qualification period you can do it in advance, so that’s actually a new thing. I’m sure somebody thought of that registration period to try to catch the snowbirds so they wouldn’t be in town, and that’s a state law.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I think I did it in advance one year.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, you had to do it in person up until a few years ago. Mr. Wishner: Yes, and I did it in advance.
Mr. Smale: So, let’s be clear, when do these terms expire?
Mr. Winkeljohn: So, if you’re one of the three seats we just listed you term expires November, like the third week in November, so if you reapply and are re-elected it’s a 4 year term.
Mr. Smale: Should we publicize in some way the opportunity to run for the Board, other than outside this room?
Mr. Winkeljohn: The District rules do not require anything other than what I’m doing right now, the rest is at your discretion.
Mr. Smale: Ok.
Ms. Willson: And then there’s the publication of the notice as well in the paper, that’s required by law.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Right.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I think we should.
Mr. Wishner: I disagree, and the reason I disagree is that you leave yourself open to people outside of the community coming in to take over the CDD, which is a distinct possibility, it has happened elsewhere.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: What.
Mr. Winkeljohn: You have to be a registered voter within the District to qualify, however, I think what you’re saying, it is true, people look for open seats and they just apply for them and there’s no preventative process to keep them off the ballot, you have to do it retroactively or you have to call them, hey you’re on the ballot but you don’t live in the District

so you’re not qualified to do it, and you just sworn an oath that you were, but you’re not, and you can usually talk them out of it. So, it doesn’t happen a lot but, it does happen and it can be really sticky but, what I think you’re asking is maybe put it out to the HOA that there’s 3 seats up.
Mr. Smale: Yes, that’s more of what I intended.
Mr. Wishner: Ok, I understand so within the community, I’m fine. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Ok, got it, I think we should.
Mr. Smale: Well, I’m thinking about it because there’s a good chance I won’t run

again.

Mr. Winkeljohn: That’s fine but, if there’s a HOA contact I can forward this to. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Is it Author.
Mr. Smale: Well, they would immediately turn it over to Diana Wilson.
Mr. Proctor: It’s Steve right now but, the election is up so I think Author is next in line

to be president.
Mr. Smale: Either way, whoever gets the notification will turn it over to Diana Wilson who is the onsite manager, and then she has the whole email list and can send it out.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Ok, and I will want to explain the financial disclosure part and the public records part and the public official part, and that usually scares the average person away.
Mr. Proctor: So when will that be advertised Paul? Mr. Winkeljohn: I think it was already advertised. Mr. Proctor: Ok.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: There is the annual HOA meeting, so it would be nice if Jim, if you could be there and you could make an announcement.
Mr. Proctor: The election for the HOA Board is later this month, I’m sorry in March. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Probably, yes.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Very good, so if anyone wants to make announcements, all of that, here’s the information in you packet on that qualification period and obviously it’s the Collier County Supervisor of Elections office, and their phone number is in there and they do answer it.

Mr. Wishner: I’m sorry, before we move on, can I ask a question. I doubt this will happen but, what happens if 3 people decide not to run again, we don’t have 3 other candidates who are looking to come on, what happens then?
Mr. Winkeljohn: So, then in November the Board would certify the election results, declare vacancies in a resolution and then the remaining members of the Board would have a choice to appoint.
Mr. Wishner: Ok.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And even if there were only two of you, you’re legally allowed without out quorum to fill vacancies until you have a quorum.
Mr. Wishner: Ok, and I think originally I was appointed before.
Mr. Smale: I’m sure we were both originally appointed by the Board. Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes.
Mr. Smale: And everybody here is actually been appointed, nobody has ever been elected.
Mr. Winkeljohn: If you’re unopposed you’re automatically acclimated.
Mr. Smale: Ok, so we’ve probably never had a ballot with any names on it. Mr. Winkeljohn: Probably not.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Right.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And just my advice is, behind the scenes the politics, it’s better to not have a contested election for something like a utility Board, if you ever get to that place, that’s really not a good sign.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Staff Reports
Mr. Winkeljohn: Moving on to staff reports, Alyssa, how are you today?

Attorney
Ms. Willson: Excellent, how is everybody doing? Mr. Wishner: Good, thanks.
Mr. Winkeljohn: They’re all here so you can judge on your own, so anything for our Board today under your report?
Ms. Willson: Just if you have any interest in any items or any discussion on those items that are moving through the legislature, please let me know, otherwise we can provide a more thorough report on any action items that actually pass both chambers and the

conclusion of the legislative session which we are hopeful will be March 13th, otherwise, just continuing to work with your team on District items and available to answer any questions.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Thank you.

Engineer
Mr. Winkeljohn: Josh, I don’t know if he made it on the phone, he has the same conflict today that he had last month.
Mr. Evans: No, I’m on here.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Ok, hi Josh, how are you?
Mr. Evans: Good. I just wanted to report that the lake bank inspection report is in draft form and I’ll have that out to Patrick and the Board by the end of this week, and then we can talk about maybe Patrick helping us, maybe get a quote with Kevin’s help maybe, there’s some little spots that I recommend cleaning up and that’s what I have.
Mr. Wishner: Ok.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: So, we’ll talk on that in March, right. Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Ok.
Mr. Winkeljohn: We can get pricing by then. Mr. Evans: Yes I can do that.
Mr. Wishner: Can we get that report as soon as it’s done? Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes.
Mr. Evans: Yes.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, I’ll send it out as soon as he releases it. Mr. Wishner: Good.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Thank you. Mr. Evans: That’s all I have.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And I just wanted to thank Josh for making his staff work last night at midnight to finish the map, we appreciate that.
Mr. Evans: Ok.
Mr. Wishner: Josh, does that report include any work that was done on evaluating water quality or is that just erosion issues?

Mr. Evans: It’s just erosion issues but, we are following up with one more test of that lake and it’s scheduled to happen this week, so I’ll send that out to the Board too after it’s complete.
Mr. Wishner: Ok, thank you.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I appreciate that.

Field Manager
Monthly Report
Veterans Memorial Blvd. Silver Buttonwood Hedge Installation Estimates with Vision Landscape
Irrigation Estimate
Mr. Winkeljohn: That brings us to field manager, Patrick.
Mr. Burgess: So, I put a small report in your package just because there was a car crash on Veterans Memorial Blvd. in the cul-de-sac.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Was anyone hurt?
Mr. Burgess: I believe the person was hurt.
Mr. Wishner: Was this a road racing crash or was this something else?
Mr. Burgess: I think it was just a normal crash, and on page 38 of the agenda I put some pictures.
Mr. Wishner: Ok, I didn’t see that.
Mr. Burgess: So, I’ve worked with Vision to get an estimate to replace everything that was there that is on CDD property that we would go through their insurance to cover the cost. So, I’ve been working with Egis, your District insurance provider and they have the police report and everything so if you guys want to move forward with replacement, I have a cost from Vision and I also have, a least a tree cost from Blue Landscaping which is a little cheaper than Vision’s. Vision sent me some itemized estimates, I have those, I just wasn’t able to send them out because I just got them last night.
Mr. Wishner: Is it this $5,000 bill? Ms. Hurt-Simmons: It’s not here. Mr. Proctor: It’s not on there.
Mr. Burgess: Yes, that is for the irrigation, the second item.
Mr. Wishner: Oh, I see, do you know if this was a drunk driver?
Mr. Burgess: I mean it was at 2:00 a.m. and they were going fast enough to hit the end of the cul-de-sac.

Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Do you suggest we replace it with that palm tree, or something
else?
Mr. Burgess:  I think if the other insurance provider is paying for it, yes but that’s
something you guys need to decide.
Mr. Proctor: I have done a little work with our GM, Ron Wunderling, he wants to work together as far as filing a claim because they have a claim as well because of the shrubbery taken out that parallels to the tennis court. So, I invited him to come today but, I did not hear back from him, he thinks that we should have some type of a barrier put into the cul-de-sac where that palm tree is to prevent someone from potentially running through the tennis court when someone is playing. Now normally these activities are after hours I think with the road racing and whatever they’re doing, so that’s something to think about.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: That’s HOA property when you get to the tennis courts.
Mr. Proctor: Yes, they’re taking care of that but, the palm tree on the cul-de-sac is
ours.
Mr. Sinoway: Before we get to this, I’d like find out what the insurance is, your talking
about District insurance.
Mr. Winkeljohn: No, it would be the driver’s insurance. Mr. Sinoway: Ok.
Mr. Winkeljohn: But we just our agent to be our liaison, as agent to agent.
Mr. Sinoway: Right, ok so since it’s our property, and our responsibility, what’s the cost of this again because I didn’t see that, I was confused between that and the Vision stuff. Mr. Burgess:	Yes, so I got the cost to replace everything that is there, the podocarpus, irrigation adjustments, pine straw, and that 16’ silvester palm is $12,278, that’s from Vision, and I didn’t get a full replacement cost from Blue, I just got a palm tree cost, and that’s $9,983. So, their tree cost is $10,000 so Vision’s tree cost compared to Blue’s is
just a little more expensive.
Mr. Proctor: Patrick shared the number with me a few days ago, I thought it was extremely high so I talked with our HOA landscape chairman, Dave Carr, and in December, 2024 is when the palm trees were put out there and they were 11’ there at a cost of $61,000 and change, so it’s allocated about $5,000 per palm tree, plus about $500 for irrigation so, I know we’re about a year and half later.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: The same kind of palm tree?

Mr. Proctor: Yes, they were 11’ silvester palms.
Mr. Sinoway: Before we get on to that though, I have a threshold of questions, the first question is, nobody has seen a police report here.
Mr. Wishner: No, he has it. Mr. Winkeljohn: We have it.
Mr. Sinoway: Oh, you have it, do we know whether he’s insured or not?
Mr. Burgess: There was insurance, yes, the vehicle was insured and the driver wasn’t the owner of the vehicle apparently.
Mr. Sinoway: Was or was not? Mr. Burgess: Was not.
Mr. Sinoway: Ok, so you say the driver has insurance, we don’t know whether he was driving with permission, if he wasn’t driving with permission, there’s no insurance carrier in the world that’s going to cover it. So, the threshold question to me is, we need to know something about this because it makes the decision on where we’re going with this, and our carrier, I mean they cover it but, they’re going to have to subrogate against this, and our rates will go up as a consequence, so that’s the threshold question.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And we’ll go through that process with the car insurance agent and see how they react and I’ll report back to you.
Mr. Sinoway: It’s pretty simple to do that if we have that information.
Mr. Winkeljohn: District insurance being public and being protected by sovereign immunity really doesn’t have that price escalation impact from accidents and stuff like that, it’s almost like if somebody steals something from you, your insurance company doesn’t rack up your premium, so it kind of fits like that in public insurance but, the cautions I’m hearing are good points, so we’ll definitely look at that. The other piece tied to what Jim was saying is of maybe putting a barrier and doing something to protect the tennis court, if the HOA wants to do that, that’s great, if it’s on our land I would insist that we have our engineer or a traffic engineer sign off on anything because if you put an impediment at the end of a roadway you could be more responsible than you’d like to be.
Mr. Sinoway: Right.
Mr. Smale: I think that’s really good advice and I think what we should do is go down the road of finding out how much Ron can get and what we can get, and then let’s say it’s

$20,000 we can decide what’s the best thing to do with $20,000 that’s within the law other than buy a palm right now.
Mr. Proctor: Yes, I don’t know if it’s necessary to put another palm tree back.
Mr. Winkeljohn: It seems like a blind area, it’s not benefiting anyone, there’s no immediate obligation to worry about it but, as this project fills in, I think those are the steps we should take. One, like you just said about the insurance, two, making sure we have good qualified solutions that won’t put us in further jeopardy.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: So, there’s been several accidents all around here and I know people have actually hit the tennis areas and different things, are they happening in different locations around. You say a barrier but, have all been a little bit different, do you guys recall?
Mr. Proctor: I think they’re all right there at the cul-de-sac.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Because I’m looking at the picture and the tire marks.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, it’s become an attractive nuisance in essence, a dead end road with nobody there.
Mr. Proctor: We just see the black marks in the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I have communities that have this exact scenario and the only solution that they could ever come up with was to put a small cul-de-sac island in the middle, a median island with some reflectors and something in the middle that makes it where driving and doing donuts and racing through it are attractive.
Mr. Proctor: Good idea because that’s a very big cul-de-sac, and there’s no good reason why it needs to be that large.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Well, it’s probably for fire rescue, someplace to turn around.
Mr. Wishner: And that’s a tremendous convenience for everyone that lives on that south side of the community.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I bet that’s what it’s for.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Can you put in some road blocks or something?
Mr. Winkeljohn: I don’t know, would you guys mind if we tabled this and let’s get organized?
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Yes, ok.
Mr. Winkeljohn: The more we know, then we’ll start the research. Mr. Proctor: Yes, so I think the insurance as well as what’s the plan.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Got it, right, so pause on everything until we really understand.

Mr. Wishner: I think your suggestion is an excellent one regarding evaluating, decreasing or increasing liability with a barrier, I’m in favor of it, I think a barrier is a great idea especially if the HOA is going to pay for it but, I do want to make sure that we’re not creating an unknown and unexpected consequences.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Right, we wouldn’t want to do that but, we could also help fund the situation with maybe some traffic calming or something, who knows, but let’s put it on a to do list to discover.
Mr. Sinoway: And particularly because it’s outside of our purview, it’s outside our expertise, it’s outside our charge.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, so we know about it so we’ll do our responsible part. Mr. Sinoway: I’d like to see the statute please.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Agreed, let’s go through this step by step.
Mr. Sinoway: And just to reflect, that’s an informational part that, so called police report, it doesn’t tell you what happened so there’s more to that police report.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Exactly.
Mr. Proctor: Patrick had difficulty getting that limited report.
Mr. Burgess: Yes, and the reason I put it on there is to inform you guys, I got the police report from Collier County but, FHP handled it so I had to go through FHP, I spoke to the trooper, so I did a lot of work to obtain the report but, I have to check if it’s finalized because they were waiting on blood work, so this is purely informational, what you guys want to do from there is totally up to you.
Mr. Sinoway: They were waiting on blood work, ok. Mr. Burgess: Yes, to finalize the report.
Mr. Winkeljohn: There’s more to the story.
Mr. Burgess: And it happened between meetings so I just wanted to give you guys an update on that but, moving on.
Mr. Sinoway: Could you have the county do that?
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, that’s part of the equation is, the traffic and who’s responsible and who can make that decision is part of it too because we wouldn’t have the jurisdiction of putting anything traffic related because that’s not our charge like you said but, we know who to ask and once we make them aware of a risk maybe that will put the fire up a little bit.

So, we all have sovereign immunity so liability is capped between us and the county but, it’s just prudence.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: We probably would need to get a listing of how many accidents we’ve had there over the last “X” number of years.
Mr. Sinoway: The problem is once you start to take a duty you own that that duty, and there might be some governmental immunity, I’m not sure we have individual immunity.
Mr. Wishner: You do as a Board member.
Mr. Sinoway: Yes, as a Board, it’s just a question, I’m not sure, I mean I don’t want to be responsible for having to put in some kind of stuff that we don’t have any responsibility for, or any expertise for.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Right.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: That’s why you bring in the county.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And your team, an engineer and an attorney will review anything and advise accordingly, so they’ll help us.
Mr. Smale: Let’s move on.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, I’m ready. Patrick what else do you want to tell us about?
Mr. Burgess: So, on the agenda is the irrigation estimate and discussion of the silver buttonwood buffer hedge extension for that area of brazilin pepper across from the golf maintenance shed. So, Barbara and I met with the golf superintendent and talked about the concern of all the brazilin pepper there that they have not removed and it just keeps on growing back, it blocks our stormwater drainage, and we just requested that we work together, so they remove it and we install a new buffer hedge, kind of block the new vegetation they would put so that their green complex wouldn’t be so visible. He emailed us early this month in February and said that they’re closing the golf course this summer for renovations and plan to remove the vegetation as discussed, the fence will be replaced, they’ll install what they installed further down the hole, and get rid of that brazilin pepper so it’s not an expense for the CDD.
Mr. Winkeljohn: That’s great news.
Mr. Burgess: Yes, so that’s great so our part of it is what’s on the agenda for you guys to discuss is extending the silver buttonwood hedge down to the start of the FPL easement and Vision gave you some options of 15 gallon silver buttonwoods, and then you

have an option of 25 gallon silver buttonwoods, closer spacing, there’s really options on how fast you want it to become a full hedge like you had prior.
Mr. Smale: These silver buttonwoods don’t require any maintenance or very little maintenance, is that part of the deal?
Mr. Burgess: They’re part of the landscape maintenance agreement with Vision, so this past summer we hard cut them basically in half and they grew back fuller, they weren’t as tall as they were in the past.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: They look good.
Mr. Burgess: And they get trimmed, maybe not as much this time of the year but during the summer they definitely grow.
Mr. Wishner: Is there any reason to go beyond the 15 gallon 4’ spacing? Mr. Proctor: No.
Mr. Smale: It’s not visually benefiting Talis Park.
Mr. Proctor: When the HOA did Talis Park Drive they did 15 gallon. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I would go with the 15 gallon versus the 25 gallon.
Mr. Burgess: I would say probably what’s out there is closer to 25 but I think 15 will grow fast in the summertime which is when they would be doing the work when everything would be planted. So, it’s just more so what you want to do more of it, a hedge right away or if you want it to grow.
Mr. Proctor: I always like to compare back to what was the cost before because it would basically work under two different types of vendors, so Talis Park Drive, the silver buttonwoods cost $116 each which was done in 2024.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: How much were they?
Mr. Proctor: $116 each, when we got a quote to potentially do the inside of the berm along the golf course, the planning exercise, the same vendor, his quote was significantly higher. This one for example, if we did the 3’ spacing with 15 gallon for $16,700 that’s like
$167 per tree and that still seems high.
Mr. Burgess: Well, they sent me the line item estimate so for that one they have 100 15 gallon silver buttonwoods for $141.50.
Mr. Wishner: And the rest is irrigation and mulch, etc. Mr. Burgess: Yes.
Mr. Wishner: So, why wouldn’t we go 4’ spacing, not 3’ spacing?

Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Right, what’s currently there? Mr. Burgess: I didn’t see what it is.
Mr. Wishner: Yes because this quote is for 3’ spacing. Mr. Winkeljohn: He has both of them, so say it’s $3,000.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: So, let’s say it’s 3’ spacing right now, and you kind of want it to look nice and similar, would it matter if it was thicker, would it matter?
Mr. Burgess: It just wouldn’t grow as full as a hedge would. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: So, you don’t know what’s there right now? Mr. Burgess: No, I would have to look.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I’d like to see what’s there right now.
Mr. Proctor: I don’t think we should spend anymore than we should, it’s not even on our side of the road.
Mr. Smale: I’m 100% in agreement with that and I don’t think we need to discuss this anymore.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: So, somebody has to make a proposal.
Mr. Proctor: I want to make a comment, I don’t think we need to go all the way up to the open ditch, I think we should go parallel with our west end of the Talis Park maintenance area.
Mr. Smale: Oh, I thought that’s what we were doing. Mr. Proctor: No, it’s further west.
Mr. Wishner: Well, then I totally agree with that.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Well, we talked with him and he had asked that we go as far as it’s not that much further, so he asked to cover their golf course, and they’re picking up a lot of the expenses of cutting down these bushes.
Mr. Wishner: But it’s their bushes and their fence.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: But they’re encroaching when they encroach on our space, then I don’t know who’s responsible for that.
Mr. Winkeljohn: We don’t have to do anything, this is all voluntary, we can leave it as is and just keep it off the road, that’s our job.
Mr. Proctor: How much to reduce the cost Patrick by only going to the west end of maintenance area?

Mr. Burgess: So we’re up to their property line which is on the GIS map and you can see the property line boundary, it’s not all the way down to the entrance of that FPL easement that we parked at.
Mr. Smale: And it’s similar to the berm where, what are our requirements from the initial, do we have to do anything, do we have to do something?
Mr. Proctor: I don’t think it’s going to look right that far west because you don’t have buttonwoods on the north side of the street.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I don’t know, I think we’re being good neighbors and we’re fixing a problem together.
Mr. Proctor: We spent several thousand dollars last year cutting out the brazilin peppers that they should have done.
Mr. Sinoway: Was there a quid pro quo in the discussion with them?
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I don’t know, we were talking friendly terms, they asked us if we could do this and we said we’d take it to the Board and they said they would take all off theirs to their Board.
Mr. Proctor: I’d like to make a motion, I move that we do the 4’ spacing, 15 gallon, and only to our western edge of the maintenance area, so you’d have to get an update quote.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: That’s where it’s going right now.
Mr. Wishner: Do you have something we can see in our packet? Mr. Burgess: No, it’s not in the packet but, I can show you GIS map. Mr. Smale: I’ll second Jim’s motion.
Mr. Burgess: So their property line is right here, and that’s where they’re going to stop, we’re not going to go down here, we’re just going to stop right on our line. Everything is going to be clear, so you’re going to see directly into their golf course and they’re going to see directly out, so they’re going to put clusia hedge which would be a buffer down the road, and they just asked if we could put an additional buffer hedge and I said we’ll discuss it.
Mr. Wishner: So, where does our maintenance area end here?
Mr. Burgess: Yes, we have the north side of Veterans which is the buttonwood hedges and that’s it, this is the golf course, this is Corsica, and the reason that we cleared it up to here because this our outfall so the water travels, and Kevin reached out, and he said this is what they used to do to clear it, and that’s why we said we don’t want to continue to clear that vegetation.

Mr. Sinoway: If we shorten it, will it affect the water drainage there? Mr. Burgess: Shorten what?
Mr. Sinoway: Don’t go as far.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Not what we’re doing.
Mr. Winkeljohn: It’s predominantly aesthetic cooperative decision. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Yes.
Mr. Burgess: I think our main goal is just to clear our swale so water can flow, and that was the point of us removing that.
Mr. Wishner: Did we have any conversation with or expectation from Visari when they were clearing out their area which is on the north side of the property?
Mr. Winkeljohn: I don’t think so, well there’s a motion and it’s been seconded to do the widest spacing and end it at the property line as Jim discussed. Is there any other discussion?

On MOTION by Mr. Proctor seconded by Mr. Smale with all in favor, accepting the proposal from Vision Landscapes and authorizing to do silver buttonwood up to the western edge of the maintenance area in an amount not to exceed $13,204.17 was approved.

Manager
Mr. Winkeljohn: Nothing under manager’s report other than we are meeting next month so you’re committed for the budget hearing. You had more to do Patrick?
Mr. Burgess: Well, just the irrigation proposal. Mr. Winkeljohn: Sorry.
Mr. Burgess: Which is $4,886.60 just because that part doesn’t have irrigation. Mr. Wishner: You mean on Veterans?
Mr. Burgess: Yes.
Mr. Proctor: So, it would reduce somewhat because you’re not going as far west. Mr. Burgess: Yes, they’ll only do that area.

Mr. Wishner: To be adjusted.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, it will be adjusted.

On MOTION by Mr. Wishner seconded by Mr. Sinoway with all in favor, accepting the proposal from Vision Landscapes for irrigation work in an amount not to exceed $4,886.60 was approved.

Mr. Winkeljohn: Very good, anything else? Mr. Burgess: No, that’s all I have.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Thank you Patrick. Under manager’s report we were just mentioning next month is our adoption of our budget which meets our requirements, and we moved the meeting an extra week to fit the requirements of a 60 day span between when you propose to when you adopt it and that brings it to March 24th, we all agree.
Mr. Wishner: Yes. Mr. Proctor: Yes.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I just wanted to refresh that memory.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Financial Reports
Approval of Check Register
Acceptance of Unaudited Financials
Mr. Winkeljohn: The financials reports are in your packets, nothing of particular note to mention, if there are any questions I can take them or a motion is appreciated.

On MOTION by Mr. Wishner seconded by Ms. Hurt-Simmons with all in favor, the Check Register and the acceptance of the Unaudited Financials were approved.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS    Supervisors Requests
Mr. Winkeljohn: That brings us to Supervisor’s requests. You want to talk about this?” Mr. Proctor: Yes, in our last Board meeting we decided as a Board to direct Paul,
and Patrick to put something together as it relates to what our CDD lake maintenance responsibility policy is and in addition to that, the golf transition chairman asked what our role is and if I could provide him some information, so I told him I would do that today in

advance of the Thursday meeting they’re having. So, I think each of you got the information last night.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And the maintenance policy was circulated a few days ago and then we supplemented a cover letter and we also replaced a map with an updated map.
Mr. Proctor: So, as a part of that I think really what precipitated this was the fact that the Corsica group had issues with what we’ve done or not done, and we felt like we needed to be clear, not only for Corsica but for all neighborhoods quite frankly. So, I think if there’s any comments.
Mr. Wishner: I have several.
Mr. Proctor: Ok, so I think we should have our HOA property manager mail it to all residents.
Mr. Wishner: I agree with that but, I have comments and questions before we do that. Mr. Winkeljohn: Sure, go ahead.
Mr. Wishner: First of all, in this document there are, for example, we state that the maintenance area is maintained by Cross Creek Environmental Services.
Mr. Proctor: What item are you on Steve?
Mr. Wishner: Right now I’m just looking at the bottom of the first page where it says lakes are maintained by Cross Creek Environmental Services, it’s in 4.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: What are you looking at, are you looking at this? Mr. Winkeljohn: No, this.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Is this a cover letter that I’m looking at then? Mr. Wishner: No, I’m looking at the maintenance agreement.
Mr. Proctor: Here Barbara, I have an extra copy. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Thank you.
Mr. Wishner: So, my comment is rather than memorialize that our maintenance is done by Cross Creek Environmental, I would rather have language that says something like maintained by a professional outside environmental services company currently Cross Creek Environmental, and similarly when we’re talking about things like Evans Engineering, and anywhere else where we’re naming a third party provider, I think we should identify it as these are services that we hire from a contractor service from an outside provider, currently provided by “X”, so that if down the road there was any reason to change, we have memorialized it.

Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Well, if you say current, then you need to date this as well. Mr. Wishner: Sure, and I think it should be dated because it may evolve over time. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Because this will go on our website, so this should be dated. Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, definitely.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: What do you suggest?
Mr. Proctor: Those are both under point #4, maintenance agreement.
Mr. Wishner: I believe that’s right. Then my other comment was that in regulatory compliance, #6 where we identify the fact that the HOA needs to get our permission to install any fountains, aerators, aquatic plantings like that, etc., I think we should add something about one, on the north side of Carrara, some of that water may have been affected by them fertilizing the grass too close to the water or something, so I think we should have some sort of language in there of the care and affect of the lake.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I think we could add a section about environmental impacts, fertilizers, maintenance, blowing grass into the water, some maintenance habits that are adverse.
Mr. Wishner: Yes, and anything that they do, either on our land or affecting our land should get our permission.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Ok.
Mr. Smale: And I have a suggestion as well, I think that wherever this goes, and whoever it goes to that it should have an introductory statement that defines the CDD as a political subdivision of the State of Florida, with limitations by statute X, Y, Z of whatever it is because I think people in the community think of this as like a second homeowners association, and we’re definitely not beholden to the homeowners.
Mr. Proctor: Have you seen Paul’s cover letter? Mr. Smale: Yes.
Mr. Winkeljohn: And I cover that a little bit in the cover letter, so to speak but, I think we could reference it again.
Mr. Smale: Yes, I do see this but, I think it should be more official sounding or formal so that it more clearly defines our separation from the community.
Mr. Wishner: Yes it’s a very important distinction.

Mr. Smale: Yes, and I think that we have a responsibility to the community because we all want it to be better but, our actions are limited by the statutes dictated by the State of the Florida, not by anybody in the homeowners association.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I mention that a little bit in the cover that we’re responding to a permit and the obligations of the permit we can add that in here, kind of as the teeth of it if you will, or the foundation of why we do what we do.
Mr. Smale: Yes, I think that’s good because people don’t understand, it’s just like a School District, or any other political subdivision within the state that it’s not a homeowners association.
Mr. Sinoway: Well, specific references to the statutory provisions ought to be in there. Mr. Winkeljohn: Got it.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: How are you going to send this out? This will go out via email to the HOA?.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Alright.
Mr. Winkeljohn: We’ll put it all on a PDF. Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Ok.
Mr. Wishner: I think the next draft should come to us, we should respond individually to him as to whether we’re ok with it and then it could be sent out.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Agreed, one more round.
Mr. Proctor: I do want to provide this before the Thursday’s meeting. Mr. Wishner: Ok.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: You mean you would do this into letter, or this?
Mr. Smale: You know what, I think that would be great if we could but, I don’t want to rush it because I don’t think it’s important to his agenda, that he defines what the CDD does because it has very little to do with the golf course turnover.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: They want to understand our role in the lakes.
Mr. Proctor: They want us to answer what everyone’s responsibilities are I think.
Mr. Smale: I know that they do but, we’ve done this so many times and nobody listens because I know you’ve done it, got up and talked about it at homeowners associations, I did it many years ago.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I did too.

Mr. Proctor: So, just a couple three good points that Steve made, this is the one that would work probably with everybody’s comments.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: If I have some comments on the letter I just sent them to Paul? Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Ok.
Mr. Smale: If we get it by Thursday, that’s great. Mr. Winkeljohn: We can do it by tomorrow.
Mr. Smale: Ok.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: You know, I do have a question because we define everything, is it clear that we are not responsible for retention ponds?
Mr. Winkeljohn: No.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Do we want to make that clear?
Mr. Smale: In the community, they’re all numbered lakes, right?
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, and I know that we don’t have any that we’re obligated to that are part of the drainage system. It’s not unusual for a community to have its drainage system and then have auxiliary retention ponds, maybe somebody puts some french drains in, they’re not part of our system, we don’t maintain them.
Mr. Wishner: Is the pond south of the Viansa a retention pond, and is that ours?
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: We talked about that last time, and the word retention pond kept coming up.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, that’s a good question, I don’t think so, I don’t think that’s under our maintenance responsibility, we didn’t build it, we didn’t pay for it and it’s not under our permit, so we don’t manage it. Now these environmental areas, we are responsible for them, they’re not retention ponds, they’re upland protected areas.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: These here.
Mr. Winkeljohn: The preserves, so those have their own permit and we maintain them according to the permit, so yes.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Should we put that anywhere in here, is that in here?
Mr. Winkeljohn: I mean we can capture everything like that but, I think this document is really about lakes, like it’s really honing in on the lakes itself, and we’re not limited to just lakes but that’s what this document was for is to communicate about the lakes. I’m open to it but I don’t want to blur that focus.

Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I just don’t want to ignore something that we’re working on.
Mr. Winkeljohn: I can add a reference to them, I could say in addition to lakes, we maintain preserves and retention areas according to those permits, and then just leave it like that.
Mr. Smale: I think that sounds good.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Those don’t have an impact on people like a lake does. Mr. Wishner: The preserve that we have in Talis, we don’t manage that. Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes we do.
Mr. Wishner: We do.
Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, we have a, there’s an exotics requirement in those and they have to be monitored and so we send a crew in there like once or twice a year, they count the plants and every once in a while we’ll do some removals.
Mr. Wishner: Ok, and the retention pond along I-75 south of our community is that
ours?
Mr. Winkeljohn: I’m trying to think, I think that’s the FDOT one, and we’ve always
fought over our pipe that goes into it, they don’t clear their part out of it well enough to get the water out easily but, we do play with that and we’ve had a challenge getting them to do their maintenance because it was preventing our outflow a little bit.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: I would just like to have that added so there’s clarity. Mr. Smale: What you just describe is a nice catchall.
Ms. Hurt-Simmons: Yes. Mr. Winkeljohn: I got it.
Mr. Proctor: Back to one item, Patrick, what did you come up with on the fish?
Mr. Burgess: Yes, I didn’t get any response from the county, I spoke to Cross Creek about it, it’s mosquito fish is what you can install, I believe it’s $4,000.
Mr. Wishner: They provide them free, I went to a tour of mosquito control and they had ponds of fish that they said on the tour they provide them free.
Mr. Burgess: I inquired on their website twice and no one reached back out to me, so apparently you can but I just have no information provided on it. The only thing that I was told by Cross Creek is just whatever percentage they give you compared to what your lake needs it’s really just how efficient it is.

Mr. Winkeljohn: It’s a huge scale difference, they might give you 20 fish, you need 20,000 for all 13 lakes.
Mr. Proctor:  Once upon a time the idea was to restock the lakes and it was like
$50,000 or $60,000, remember that.
Mr. Winkeljohn: We’ve done this exercise, we have a permit we’re allowed to stock the lakes for these types of reasons, we definitely do not want to do the algae eating fish because there’s a whole other set of infrastructure requirements, you have to trap them, you can’t let them get out but, most lakes will reach a equilibrium of native fish which each larva just as much as mosquito fish, they’re little, they stay little longer so they have a longer life span but, baby fish each larva that’s their first source of food and tad poles, they like those too. So, I think your lakes are healthy, in most lakes, it won’t make a discernible difference.
Mr. Wishner: Have we gone through everything on the agenda? Mr. Winkeljohn: Yes, we’re covered.
EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Adjournment
Mr. Wishner: I move to adjourn.

On MOTION by Mr. Wishner seconded by Mr. Sinoway with all in favor, the meeting was adjourned.

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